[Dr.HFadel]

Greetings everyone ...

this is just a simple summer topic ...

Did any of ur patients ever ask u what is the best available tooth paste?

Donno about u but about 90% of my patients ask me that and i answer them with a diplomatic answer that i've been tought 2 say back in school;

"...it doesn't matter the type of paste u use... all that matters is how u do it ...and how many times..."

ok...i know thats true but is there a tooth paste better than another?

how about u spread some light on this subject based on ur personal experience and some scientific back ground?

Peace 2 all ...



Regards,,

Dr.HFadel

[nanouss]

hi everybody . . .
this is the most frequently asking question i always answer like that ; most of the available tooth paste had the same effect so unless the patient needs specific tooth paste 4 specific purpose as 4 example ;decrease the sensitivity 4sensitive teeth ..also some paste are special 4 bleeding gum or the patient needs to decrease the effect of coffe tea and smoking stains deposits (whitening tooth paste could help )all the tooth paste r the same and its better 2 change the type from time 2 time and 2 not stuck always 2 the same type

[ortho_smile]

SiGnaL 2

is the best..

tell u scientific explanation later

[salem himself]

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i don't have that personal experience but i prefer using CREST ...coz of the amount of abrasives (e.g. silica) included... beside it contains 1450 ppm Fluoride

[i_love_dentistry]

what i know and has been told in the college that signal 2 has abbrasives that is why it is prescribed by patietns who has stanings

from working experience

SARAKAN
it has mouth wash and also toothpast this product feeh 5ola9at al meswak and it decrease the bleeding,,redness coz of it is alklynety and vasocostrictore action add to this the meswak advantage of reducing the bad ouder of the mouth

i prescribe it to many patient and they were comfortable with it

[Dr.HFadel]

Greetings everyone ...

Thank u all 4 these interesting replies ...

i c everyone (but nanouss) mentioned specific toothpaste brands...

ortho_smile, salem himself, and i_love_dentistry mentioned the names;

- Signal 2

- CREST

- SARAKAN

With different reasons...

Waiting 4 more replies and opinions ...




Regards,,

Dr.HFadel

[dr.taggy]

Hi guys from my point of view, I think the best is that includ Fl-

Thank u for this nice subject.
Dr.Taggy

[Dr_Al_Tuwaijri]

hi dr.Hfadel

Any toothpaste with SDA. OR ADA seal on it

considered as a right toothpaste to use.

and i don't usually agree of changing the type of toothpaste from time to time, cuz whenever u r ok with a toothpaste just keep on using it, cuz soemtimes changing may cuz local or general infalamm. in the gingiva so
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for me i usually use signal 2 li2annoh 7aqeeqatan mrayye7ni o monsib leyah o mithl ma ti3rfoun it has the SDA. seal on.

and usually i prescribe corsodyl as a mouth wash for my pts. and it helps them alot..

anyway i think this differs from dent. to dent.

lakin ha'da howa alli ana amshi 3alaih

thanks Doc. for such a topic.

[ortho_smile]

Salam..

Back..

they told us at school :

any TP with SDA or ADA seal on it is the appropriate TP..

as what dr_al_twaijry said..

(i think this is related to KSU students )

I looked at the market & found that the only one stamped with SDA stamp is signal 2..

i always recommend to pts..

btw ,, i heard about a TP called (parodontix) i wanna know what is used for ???

if any knows ,, am happy 2 know...

[i_love_dentistry]

ok

what i know about parodotix is it is ability to decrease bleeding and gengival inflamation and this is in general never been in the chemistry of the product

but away from toothpasts there is amouth was the some patients and relative...it is called ADOLE mouth wash

it is anasthetic specially in case of ulcers,,,herps stomatitis..and also gengivitis

many patient they were comfortable using it

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i was saying that some patients and relative were so comfortable using it

[Dr_Al_Tuwaijri]

Parodontax toothpaste helps preventing inflammation of the gums. It contains a.o. echinacea and camomilla.

Without fluoride.(blue one)

[Braces]

I hate Signal 2 and never recommend it
Coz as I know scientifically it contains the highest no. of abrasives
And personally coz it is tooooo sweet

I prefer any gel type containing fluoride (Close Up, Colgate, Crest, etc)

braces

[Dr_Al_Tuwaijri]

braces

i don't think signal 2 has that high amount of abrasives

cuz according to what i heard from a consultant in resto.

SENSODINE (which is not by the way a toothpaste it should b use as a topical flouride gel)

has a very very high amount of abrasives regardless it contains flouride

and they make the advs. for it that it's a good toothpaste

(Allah y7asibhom 3ala ki'da di3ayat)

+ colgate f i remember well (i hope i'm not mistaken)

has that ingredient sodium monoflourophosphate

which really makes local or general infalmm. for high no. of ppl., and i usually don't prescribe it.

i usually prescribe TP using sodium flouride in it as an ingredient.

thanks

[Braces]

ty for those infos Dr_Al_Tuwaijri

But I do not agree with u regarding the fluoride form in Colgate
I have just checked
Colgate, Signal 2 and Close up all contains 0.32% sodium fluoride

I will try to check for the abrasives again later and let u know

braces

[Dr_Al_Tuwaijri]

Oh really!!!

ok... then i'm making such a mistake...

well what was that TP containing such an ingredient???

mmmmmmmmmmm

can u find out Braces pls.

thanks

[Dr_Al_Tuwaijri]

ok see signal 2 its active ingredient is flouride

and one of its ingredients is sodium monoflourophosphate

but i'm talking wich one has it as an active ingredient

got me???

[Sub-Zero]

Salam

Salut Dr.Fadel

sorry to be late in replying
but u know im on my vacation
anyways
in my opinion
or what i usaully tell my patients when they ask me about the best toothpaste
is that any TP containing fluoride
but...
i ask them to avoid the TP that have abrasives in them in the form of particles that can "scratch" the enamel
e.g. CloseUp with the blue particles ÇáÍÈíÈÇÊ ÇáÒÑÞÇÁ

now, prescribing a TP also depends on the case
for example when a patient has evidence of gingivitis or early adult periodontitis, i advise him/her to use Parodontax, since it's proven to be very effective in such cases, but u have to warn the patient from this toothpaste's taste.. since it is "salty" in taste.

in cases of tooth sensitivity, of course Sensodine works fine with most of the patients

this is ofcourse my opinion and what i have found to work quite well with me in the clinic

thank you Dr.Fadel for this nice topic..

Ciao

Sub-Zero

[Dr.HFadel]

Greetings everyone ...

At 1st i would like 2 apologize 4 not posting a reply right away ... like i said 2 Dr.Mahmoud i'm with the family in a resort in jeddah where there is no internet...
So i have 2 stop by some cafe 2 c whats goin on in my 2nd home;


2ndly i would like 2 say that i'm so impressed with all this flow of information from our members ...

dr.taggy, Dr_Al_Tuwaijri, ortho_smile, i_love_dentistry, Braces, and Sub-Zero...

Thank u all 4 these nice scientific and informative replies ... i don't think my humble amount of knowledge allows me 2 add anything 2 what has already been said ...

What i can say is ofcourse i support Flouride-containing toothpastes, and i agree that theres a toothpaste suitable 4 every case ...

Heres a review of the names mentioned so far;

- Signal 2

- CREST

- SARAKAN

- Parodontax

- Close Up

- Colgate

- SENSODINE


Thanks again everyone... waiting 4 more info...


Regards,,

Dr.HFadel

[Braces]

Dr_Al_Tuwaijri
I found u this table in one of my books
U r right in what u said about sensodyne
Unfortunately signal 2 was not mentioned but I still remember our doctor telling us it contains the highest amount of abrasives
Anyhow since there is no proof for that info.... I need to investigate about it

Sorry for not being able to scan it
Coz I’m in my second home (RIYADH)

Primary Preventive Dentistry
Fifth edition

TABLE 6-3. Laboratory Dentinal Abrasivity Values for Selected U.S. Dentifrices

Brand name RDA
Colgate 44.7
Viadent 52.0
pepsodent 61.8
Peak 71.0
Aim 73.0
Tom's of Maine 80.0
Ultra-Brite 81.0
Gleem 86.0
Sendodyne 87.0
Colgate Tartar Control 94.0
Crest Tartar Control 121.0

RDA = Percentage of the abrasivity value of CaCO3 adjust to 100%

braces

[Dr_Al_Tuwaijri]

hi dr. Hfadel take ur time we'll always wait for ur reply

and enjoy ur time..

Sweet braces , ok good search for the amounht of abrasiveness , but still u didn't find me which TP has the sodium monoflourophosphate as an active ingredient???

thanks braces enjoy ur time