[Braces]

This topic came to my mind long time ago
Since I know it is a bit sensitive subject I was hesitant to post it
But after the admin approved it and promised to post his reply
I –finally- decided to start this discussion
Please feel free to post ur comments



Do u chat with the opposite sex

1. I do. It is so exciting and beneficial sometimes
2. I know it is unacceptable but I do and I do not care
3. I do but I feel guilty
4. I used to chat. Thanks God I stopped
5. I don’t chat. I find it totally unacceptable
6. None of the above

Plz let’s know what u voted for

braces

[M.Hawas]

Hi Braces

The answeres u gave (4 out of 5) show that chatting is a big sin!!( Do those answers represent what people here in saudi think!)

I'm not hesitant to tell you my opinion,I will vote for none of the above .
I do chat sometimes ,and it depends on the personality of the person you chat with,and if you go along with him/her or not and doesn't depend on gender.

[Mahmoud H. Al-Johani]

At last Ya Braces you have posted your topic!

Actually I do chat with opposite sex BUT it is not just to chat...I do it when there is a need to use this type of person-to-person communication where time and place are not a barrier!.

Before, when the internet was introduced to SA I used to chat just to discover it OR you might say it was part of my online routine. But then after, I used to optimize the use of this service which you might get addict to it.

Now, is it 7alal or 7aram to chat with opposite sex? I think it is a big Q but, I am not the right person to give an answer!

At last, I think this service has enabled our kids to know things we don't want them to know - at least in early ages.

Finally , this service has both +ve and -ve aspects

~ None of the above is my VOTE ~

Have a nice time.

[dr.lolo]

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I'll vote for None of the above..
I see that the internet chat as phone chat..and I can't accept chatting to some one i dont know him/her,unless there is a real need to do it.
Braces u didn't tell us what you voted for,I think I know it unless you changed your opinion.

[Dr.M3]

WOW WOW WOW your taking things out of civilized world here??!!!
I dont mean any disrespect ....but chatting to an opposite sex is like talking on the phone??!!.....no way i mean talking to someone on the phone is way different than chatting with anyone??!!.....what i mean is that on the net you can be “no one” which is hard to get when talking with someone on the phone?? feelings, attitude, behaviors and reactions are all soooo different “don’t you think your best friend is some way different online?”………peace DR.LOLO no hard feelings…..
Now what I think about chatting with the opposite sex? Well I chatted before and I will always do because whatever is the reason behind that chat??!! no one will reach it unless both parties approve it and no one has the right to decide to an adult ……..what I mean is that I know people who got married online?? people been in love online? ...and good friends that met online? ……..dont take things above red lines while they are all the way below that.....specially chatting with someone?! I feel it is out of real world unless both parties want it real.
PEACE to all and I don’t mean disrespect to no one ……. Just put in mind no one can make you do anything ….it is always you who decide …….

[Baraah]

Nice topic I will be back when I return home

But for now I say

Look doctors writting in the forum is like chatting

& there is abig difference b/w phone & chatting ya lolo

Any way I voted for # 1

Bye for now

c u

[Braces]

M.Hawas
I talk about it as a sin coz simply it is a sin
What ever ur math’hab is any shai5 u ask will tell u this

Dr.lolo
I do not know what u know but if what u know is what I expect u to know then
I did not change my mind I just took a decision, and I’m sure it is a correct one

Dr.M3
I’m totally with dr.lolo
Chatting is a written form of talking to strangers on phone
Dr.lolo is one of my best friends, we studied together for 6 years, we lived together for 3 years,
we got separated for the last 2 years but we r still in contact
and I have never ever felt she is different online

By the way I had a close friend through net but she was of my gender,
the first thing I've done was going to her place to meet her

I’m not against civilization or new technologies but I’m against what my brain can not accept

braces

[Dr.M3]

[Braces]

Dr.M3

I’m not the one who is telling u it is sin, my mashayi5 and urs say that,
so if u think it is not, u try to convince them


Regarding dealing with males, U r right
I have never experienced that phone thingy
I treat males, I talk to males, I deal with males,
and I wont pretend that I’m always a serious person bel3aks I talk friendly and joke with them sometimes
I’ve been taught by males, there r few things that I could not learn till someone held my hand and showed me how to do it
But the difference is that all of that happened fe ennoor, in front of ppl


If u think there is no difference between that and chatting
Let’s see if u can post one of ur private chats in a public forum with out editing a word, can u?

braces

[Dr.M3]

Hello miss DR. Braces,
First let me tell you that my mashaye5 say tv is 7aram,being a dentist and dealing with men is makrooh,kashf el wajh 7aram,music is 7aram,cuising around is 7aram and top of all that dealing with men and joking around sometimes is 7ARAM,................so dont tell me whatever the mashaye5 say we do??!!its a personal thing take what you believe and leave what you dont(IN SIDE STUFF)NOT MAJORS??try telling me that you do nothing of what i said is 7aram??

Talking about dealing with men in public and in private??!!are you trying to tell me that chatting with someone in a chat room is private but a man holding the foundation color of your hand and telling you no you need a bit lighter color its ok coz its in public?! come on miss Braces for god sake tell me what i can be convenced of.......when your in a clinic with a closed door and your assistant is there processing the xray in another room??!!a man is between your hands and he is opening his mouth and all the time staring at your eyes some of them trying to play around with words??!!this is not 7aram for god sake go and ask your and my mashaye5 and they will tell you this is 5olwah and you should be punished for that??!!
Miss Braces being hold to our 3adat and takaleed is nice but lelasf not all of them make sense........
You seem to be up to your self and takaleed which is cool in a way but against your self in another way ........just like the way you cant stop thinking before you sleep having a hard time doing that.....
PEACE

[Sub-Zero]

Salam
before i start replying.. i just wanna say one thing
Abha is a reaaaaaaally nice place with an exceptional weather... la tfootkum

ok

now, about the topic, i can see alot has been said until now
different opinions
i agree with some, disagree with others
but what i'll say now ( and i wont say alot) is that chatting is completely different from talking on the phone
why, u might ask?
i'll just say this,
if it was exactly like talking on the phone
THEN, no chatter would have ever have to ask the person he/she's chatting with, to start talking on the phone
(in other words as some ppl might call it, move it to another level)

enough said

ciao

Sub-Zero

[M.Hawas]

Hi to all of you guys...

You know ,from that simple poll you could discover some of the mantalities in this forum,and that's so intresting.And honestly,i didn't expect all that replies to the poll.

Dr.3M....thanks a lot ,I came home feelings so down and you made me laugh...you replied well to everything said in here,I totally agree with you.You were so frank,and I like that!

Barrah....you are a smart girl...yeah what we do here in this forum is CHATTING....it's like leaving an offline message here then you come and check what Braces,sub_zero,....,...or others replied!

Braces....you opend now another topic in replying here,we Muslims my dear need UNITY especially these days!I'm sure you got what i mean

My regards & best wishes to All

[Braces]

Dr.M3
U still did not answer my q

M.Hawas
I do not know what u r talking about



• This thread was not started to convince anyone with any new ideas or to change what they believe in, it also was not posted to CRITICIZE other ppl MENTALITIES
• Everyone is free to post his/her PERSONAL opinion as that opinion SHOULD be respected



I will just tell u a short story
Very long time ago, I told some one who I really trust (not a sheik) that I’m not convinced that listening to music is a sin, he replied with a very short sentence that I could not ever forget
He said: doing something that u know is 7aram is a sin, but trying to disbelieve in what u know is 7aram is a bigger sin.



• I’m not a shame to say that when I used to chat I knew very well that it is 7aram and I always prayed to God to make me stop it.
• I do not think all mashaie5 could be wrong on something they ALL agreed on
• As I’m not a religious person I’m not supposed to take what I like and leave what I do not of what mashaie5 say simply bcoz I did not reach the level they reached in knowing Islam



• U do not need to try everything to know if it a good or a bad thing thus
I never tried phoning strangers bcoz my parents taught me it is a wrong thing and I’m convinced with that. I wish I will be able to teach my future kids that chat is also a wrong thing that they should not try.


N.B. This is not a final word, all member are still welcome to post there opinions

Dentish
I’m agog to hear from u

braces

[Dr.M3]

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[M.Hawas]

Dear Braces

I don't agree or believe that chatting is a sin.
You believe it's a sin and youare thankful to God you stopped !
That means :
here in this forum as you are a Girl YOU SHOULD RELPY ONLY THE POSTS OF THE GIRLS AND IGNORE ALL THE GUYS EVEN THE CHAIRMAN OF YOU SHOULDN'T RELPY HIM EVEN WITH ONE WORD!
Come on Braces!!

Sorry braces my sister to be harsh on you ,but according to your believe you are doing a big sin,you are still chattting with people here from both gender so you'd better stop it from NOW!


Note:
* Braces i like you and sure don't want u to stop posting here but i'm arguing with according to ur belive,that's all!
* What I meant and i thought u got it is that no need to raise the issue of different ethnic groups or religious believes,we you need Unity.
Got me now?
* And aren't u the one who told me that there will be a chat session in and that chat won't be for girls only or?

Have a nice day.....

[Dr.HFadel]

Greetings everyone ...


at 1st i hope u would allow me 2 join in this hot topic w my humble opinion... actually i said 2 my self i had 2 b a part of it since its a very interesting topic...
plus its kind of stealing the spot light from all the other things being posted in these days ...

b4 anything i agree on what my friend Sub-Zero said about Abha... if u wanna relax and have a nice time looking at nature ; Abha is the right place 4 u...

as 4 the topic; i voted 4 the last choice "none of the above"... since i dont mind chatting w a female, but it doesn't have 2 b exciting or interesting as the 1st choice said...at least not more than chatting w a male... what i'm trying 2 say is; y should there b a difference? we r in a field thats filled w communication b/w sexs (as some already said) and i dont think we can do anything about that fact regardless of its religious judgement...

talking about my self; i dont really enter chat rooms or any of that stuff coz i simply can't keep up with talking 2 more than 1 person , but if a male or female sent me anything on the messenger 4 example; i would at least c what he/she would have 2 say... after all; the internet can b used 4 many purposes; but it dependes on how and y r u using it... do u use it 4 the purpose of expanding ur thoughts and knowledge? meeting new people and knowing how they think? or just wasting time and using it in stuff which doesnt really take u anywhere?

i hope i said something benificial... i just wanna say that it depends on the person , and his/her purpose... many factors can lead 2 the purpose; like religeon, the way they were raised, personal beliefs,...etc. but i dont think theres anything wrong w it taking our field into consideration...

in the end... thank u braces 4 such a nice topic



Regards,,

Dr.HFadel


P.S. hope every thing cools down in here... its way 2 hot

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[M.Hawas]

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I wonder why u posted the pocily here?
I think people in saudi dent are already applying that policy.
If you noticed anything pls you can be clear,we got no problem really to listen to what u wanna say exactly.
Thanks!

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